Where is the 30000 3DMark

Hey Theo,

Where is the 30,000 3DMark Phenom that you blabbered about some time back?

Interesting slant on AMD vs Intel

Considering that the only component of a modern Intel package that's more than 65nm is the Southbridge (which uses at most 4W), you're being very misleading in saying that "This is quite important in terms of both die size and the thermal characteristics." No, it's really not important in terms of thermal characteristics. How about comparing the thermal characteristics of an AMD 65nm CPU to an Intel 45nm CPU at similar performance (you'll have to underclock the Intel part quite a bit), then see how the giant gap difference b/w the CPUs makes any motherboard gap pale in comparison. Come on, you can do better than churning out insignificant facts and then drawing incorrect conclusions from them.

Interesting ...

@ leadsled - from what I've seen the new overclocking utility allows overclocking not of just the CPU but each individual core on split power plane boards. So your not limited by a sleepy core like on x2s.

@core2dude - the 30,000 3D mark was on a cherry picked 3Ghz quad that AMD demoed. I don't remember if it was CFX or it was a duel processor machine. Probably both.

Am I the only one that actually reads the articles and the references? As for the performance verses the cores', these figures seem pretty accurate to me. ( Since AMD had their hands slapped about benchmarks, it's to be expected though.) So we can expect basically the same performance from spider as the core2s' of the same clock speeds, except in multimedia apps, which is great news. ( You would be lucky to tell the diffrence if it were 10% in most cases anyway ) I just finished specing an upgrade for my Opteron workstations. I might just hold out a little longer after all and see what arrives in December.